28
Oct
Gear Fear #1: Wireless dropouts and backup recorders
by Glen Trew
/ 19 Comments
Somebody had to say it. Glad you did and so well, Glen. Phew.
Agreed about the "failsafe" strategy. I roll a zaxcom cameralink all day. Lavs on one track. Boom on the other. Timecoded files make it simple enough to hunt for audio of last resort. Thanks for writing this!
Great article Glen! I had a problem once involving two files with the same name. The second file seemed to be overridden by the first one, even though they were recorded hours apart. The "backup" recorder didn't help since the master recorder controlled the metadata on the backup. I was able to rename the second file in wave agent and recover it, but I had quite a scare (and quite a few nervous emails from post until I fixed the problem.) Although the problem wasn't caused by the backup, it didn't prevent it either, as it wasn't an independent recorder. Still, producers seem to like the idea of a "backup" so I'll probably stick with it for now.
Thank you Glen for your very thoughtful insights and sharing your own personal experiences and approach to the mission critical work we do. I agree with your practice of running only one recorder --- I haven't run a backup recorder in years and have also never needed backup files from a traditional second "backup" recorder. I am somewhat surprised in your article the conspicuous lack of any mention on Zaxcom gear. You do make the true statement: "The most commonly used portable wireless systems in North America are made by Lectrosonics" but by making that statement you miss the opportunity to inform those Lectrosonics users the potential benefits to be had if using Zaxcom gear. You do mention the widespread use of wireless transmitters in production, for all talent and even the primary boom mic, and if you were to be using Zaxcom transmitters you would have a continuous timecoded backup recording of every microphone in use, those on the talent and the boom(s), even in the face of RF failures, primary and backup recorder failures, etc. Additionally, Zaxcom users have already in many cases, implemented your suggested best practice of running an automatic and continuous recording of the primary mix track. The IFB-200 that I use does just that --- a continuous unattended production timecoded recording that runs all day (providing you have the IFB-200 turned on). So, in summary much of what you suggest as to best practices to remove the Fear of Gear failure is already being implemented by use of Zaxcom gear.
Great article, thank you!
Great article Glen, and thank you very much for mentioning the unmentionable.
Almost scared me when you said that antenna distance was not a factor, until I read on and realized you were literally referring to extending the antenna line and not the entire receiver. Audio cables are better than RF cables, so I have always placed my receivers downrange and close to the transmitters and then just use XLR audio cables to get back to my cart. As for the backup recorder issue, the key is to not piggyback them but to keep them as independent as possible. Linking them is what opens the main door to issues. True, a few more buttons to push and all that, but better to have less metadata on the backup but still be able to rescue the audio! Great article!!!!
Very well put together Glen. I've printed it out and from now on I'll be giving this 4 pages to read for film maker people who have fairy tales about reality of sound in their mind. We deal with very very difficult situations from day to day. When people have more clear ideas about what we have to deal with perhaps they'll have and give more respect to audio and sound people.
Thank you very much.
High-gain antennas used incorrectly (i.e., where not needed) also overload the input stages of the receivers causing distortion. Almost every freelance gig I do uses them when line-of-sight is less than 50 ft.
I think all of your points Glen are very valid. I would suggest that the use of Zaxcom recording wireless will eliminate any possibility of loss of audio due to RF dropouts and will form the ultimate back up recording as all tracks from the wireless are time coded iso tracks that record from the moment the system is powered up to the moment it is powered down with little or any sound mixer intervention. It is also a completely separate system satisfying all of the requirements for redundancy without the possibility of affecting the master recording by distracting the sound mixer.
Re-reading your piece, Glen.
My solution to reception is the Nomad bag. I've got two always-ready hard and software presets: record in bag or bagged remote receivers, connecting up to six wires via max 2 cat5's back to the main cart potentially many hundreds of feet away. My mix back to the Nomad for IFB distro with one of the cat5 channels.
Failing that, Zax wires.
Glenn has a point re: mixer distraction. Hits no longer take me out of the mix moment 'cause SD card in the TRX so there's that. I got a better fighting chance.
Thanks Glenn, I have more problems with cellphones but not throught wireless but with mic wire.
Any tip?
Hi Jeff,
I see why the absence of mentioning Zaxcom gear though Lectro gear was mentioned might seem conspicuous, but it's not at all: The wireless topic was about myths and truths of reducing dropouts, not how to deal with them once they happened. And, since you know me, you probably already assume that nothing in the article was meant to promote one brand and ignore another. Lectro was mentioned because that's still what most people are using in the field, yet most users seem to not understand that Lectro analog receivers are always combining both antennas, adjusting the polarity for best effect. However, what could have been added and on topic is that so-called "true diversity" receivers do, indeed, choose just the antenna with the best signal. This includes analog wireless by Senneheiser, Wisycom, and Audio Ltd, but also all diversity digital systems such as those by Zaxcom, Lectro, Sennheiser, Sony, and others. So, for these systems, it might sometimes make sense to have a directional antenna on one input and a omnidirectional antenna on the other input to allow for the possibility of the directional antenna pointing the wrong way. I should also mention that the Lectrosonics analog Venue receiver system can be used in "true diversity" mode, but doing so requires two modules per channel. Dang, that took a lot of words!
As mentioned, Glenn (Sanders), the article is not intended to be a sales pitch for a particular brand. So I need to counter your claim of, "It is also a completely separate system satisfying all of the requirements for redundancy" by saying that this assumes all inputs are wireless, and, fortunately, many still opt for the higher quality of wired booms. As for "without the possibility of affecting the master recording by distracting the sound mixer" and "with little or any sound mixer intervention": After a loss due to dropouts, having to re-record one or multiple tracks onto the primary recorder takes a lot of sound mixer intervention, which can, indeed, be a major distraction. It is far better to avoid dropouts than to fix them. As for "the ultimate back up recording", please... lav mics and bias is another topic for another time.
Glen Trew has replied to Glenn Sanders: "So I need to counter your claim of, 'It is also a completely separate system satisfying all of the requirements for redundancy' by saying that this assumes all inputs are wireless, and, fortunately, many still opt for the higher quality of wired booms."
I think Glenn Sanders' comment follows along with some of my comments regarding wireless boom work --- very much in the same spirit that Glen Trew mentions that Lectrosonics wireless is the most commonly used brand of wireless, most sound teams at this point are using wireless boom. It is a small minority, certainly on episodic television production, using hard wired boom mic. For those who are using a hard wired boom mic, the IFB-200 can provide the continuous unattended distraction-free backup recording for the (non-wireless) boom mic.
Glen Trew's comment regarding distraction, Glenn Sanders refers to the lack of distraction while providing backup and drop-out protection by simply using Zaxcom equipment rather than the other most commonly used brand mentioned. Further, I am in total agreement with Glen Trew's statement: "It is far better to avoid dropouts than to fix them" but this does not negate the value of a backup if it should be needed.
Glen Trew's statement: "After a loss due to dropouts, having to re-record one or multiple tracks onto the primary recorder takes a lot of sound mixer intervention, which can, indeed, be a major distraction" comes from someone I believe has rarely if ever had to "intervene" in this way. I can say that this re-recording process is no more difficult, time consuming or distracting than any of the things we routinely do. I have been able to re-record a portion of missed dialog between take 2 and take 3, and this new "backup" recording is fully timecoded, is identified as an alternate backup recording, done deal. I will add that I have not had to use this feature often because I have almost never had wireless drop-outs (already employing some of the techniques Glen has suggested in regards to antenna placement and also some techniques that are more appropriate when using wireless systems that use receiver diversity (the other brands Glen does not mention, Zaxcom, Audio, Ltd., Micron, etc.).
Again, Jeff, the original two topics are about how to reduce wireless dropouts, and the misperceptions ("myths") about the safety of operating a backup recorder. I think it's best to keep the discussion to the original topics because diverting from them discourages discussion about these topics and reduces the need to have a future separate topic about, in this case, transmitting recorders. I think it's vital that these discussions be as credible as possible without the motivation of commercial gain. While I have complete confidence that you have no ulterior motives of this type, it is clear that Glenn Sanders used a tangent opportunity to sales pitch his products. Also, considering his well known history of contacting users of his products to covertly influence these discussions, the timing is suspicious, which reduces credibility, which is unfortunate both for the products involved and those trying to learn.
Regarding "other brands Glen [Trew] does not mention...", please reread my previous reply, '“...true diversity” receivers do, indeed, choose just the antenna with the best signal. This includes...diversity digital systems such as those by Zaxcom, Lectro, Sennheiser, Sony, and others.'
Any discussion about antenna use and techniques, and the philosophy of recording on a main recorder and a backup, vs just keeping a backup recorder nearby for when needed, is encouraged.
I find quite sad that a well meaning and informative article, turns into yet another slagging match over which manufacturer has the best gear. Thanks for taking the time to write the original article Glen, and sorry you had to spend more time defending yourself. Can't we all just enjoy all the wondrous gear at our disposal today ?
I have been using 100% zaxcom digital system for a long time. I have worked almost 7 days a week the last 4 years. I have only lost 1 transmitter recording that was indicated R for recording on the QRX but the files was corrupted. Later after checking the microSD card was corrupted and it was all my fault for not checking before I started using it.
I am absolutely 100% confident in Zaxcom's transmitter recordings and NEVER WORRY.
Unless I work on a sound stage or in a very controlled environment I can not imagine working without it. Not only I am 100% protected from drop outs but I also have developed a workflow that saves time, money and allows me to expand my sound capabilities geographically. Physics do not concern me. Thanks to Zaxcom I provide a service to producers that no other gear on the market "in the USA" can. People keep calling me back because my expertise and Zaxcom gear provide them with piece of mind and unlimited production possibilities.
It is not zaxcom vs the rest...
It is recoding before RF vs recording after RF.
And now with ZHD I can enter an award ceremony or sporting event where RF coordinator only gave me one frequency and use 5 mics.
Remote gain, remote power, remote frequency control are additional benefits that nobody else offers.
Again with Zaxcom I NEVER WORRY because Zaxcom is the ultimate backup.
Thank you Glen Trew and all that commented. I think there are valid points in every posting here that help me, and hopefully others, with the "fear factor" of our jobs. I've been "doing sound" for around 25 years and unless I'm working on an ultra-simple project with few distractions I'm always feeling a little uneasy. It bothers me that after all this time my fear hasn't gone away. In discussing this with a producer/coordinator friend, she commented to the effect, "If you're not a little bit nervous when doing your job then that's an indication you just don't care anymore and should consider another line of work". I think we're drawn to this profession because we're either stupid or because we're actually drawn to "hot seat" jobs, seeking challenges that, at times, can get so intense that a mistake or two can get you fired. We're looking to "nail it", and the overwhelming majority of the time we do-- and, yes, it's a bit frustrating when practically the entire production staff and crew have no idea how much we stress over getting things right for them.
Back to wireless dropouts-- I find it curious how infrequently these types of wireless mic discussions address live sound, where perfect dropout-free sound is the only option-- where recordings are irrelevant. About half of my work is live-through-a-PA system, chock full of wireless mics. Yes, believe it or not, some sound mixers / recordists also do live sound. Glen Trew's discussion here about proper RF practice to prevent dropouts applies to the entire user base of all types of wireless mics and monitors, not just production sound mics for narrative/reality TV/feature film/documentary work.
I think I may need to steal that "run a recorder in the background all day" idea.