30
Oct
Set Etiquette and the Chain of Command – Part I
by Rick Patton
/ 15 Comments
Great writing Rick!
Wow! Maybe if I had never taken part in any of what Richard spoke about in his rant I might not feel like I was being talked down to. But the simple matter of fact is that yes, I have been on movie sets before, I have had to interact with "real," movie, sound mixers before and yes, I have had to put mics on women before. In all cases I did it with grace, class and without having to be told how to act by some grumpy old mixer.
To me it sounds like someone pee'ed in Richards Wheaties the morning he wrote this. Personally, I'm more than a bit offened.
Now I'll admit that I haven't been doing this job as long as Rich has, but come on, give us a break! Was this article really needed? Or was it more like Richard needed some therapy time and had to get something off his chest? Either way, I didn't care for the tone or attitude of it. That and Richard wanders all over the landscape with this article. One moment he's talking how any crew member should act on a set and then he's talking about putting mics on kids and getting sued. What?!?
Some of this article would be useful if I was only a couple of months down the road doing this job, but not the professional I am today. And I'll bet other sound mixers who read this column feel the same way, like we're being schooled by Capt. Crusty mixer. I'm sorry but, no thanks!
And if you haven't guessed, I'll go out of my way to miss part two of this drivel.
Not your best effort Trew Audio.
Hey Rick, great article...I read the comments before I read the article and was surprised with what I saw (in the comments) so I must say that I think the article comes across as totally useful and professional. I do not think it comes across anything like 'Chas Gordon' characterizes it to be, crusty, etc. Nice work.
Very nice article, Rick. Obviously, Chas Gordon doesn't feel he needs any of this information, but many others do. As a mixer with over 40 years of set experience I also believe in the importance of set etiquette. For several years I have mentored young sound people from a local film school and this is similar to the talk they get before visiting me on a working set. Thumbs up from this happy mixer.
I especially enjoyed the last paragraph. I have faced wiring women, teenage girls, and children, and came to the same conclusion on my own. I felt like, finally, my concerns were validated. They didn't teach set etiquette specifically regarding the sound team at my film school. Good read for a newbie like me.
I thought it was spot on -- not necessarily directed towards veterans, rather an overview of basic set etiquette, emphasizing in particular the relationships involving Sound professionals. I wish more (less-experienced) people would read this and articles like it before they walk onto a set -- it would make all of our jobs a little easier... Thanks Rick! : )
I think this article is needed. There are some guys that are just starting out and they don't know some of the protocol. I think that 95% of set etiquette is common sense for the most part, but the first time I had to wire a woman, I was sure about not acting inappropriately. And Rick, I am sure you did not mean it that way but, there is a way of wiring a woman without some "inappropriate touching" I have been mentored by gentlemen, and I think whomever you learn from, dictates how you handle situations. Make friends with wardrobe, and you'll be laughing.
2 cents.
B
For those of us on the behind-the-scenes end in TV land, I wish some producers could read this. There are far too many out there that think because we are working for TV, we are the most important.
Hey Rick,
Great article and I agree with most of it except this:
Don’t draw attention to yourself. Wear dark colors and be quiet. Turn off your cell phone. Don’t make eye contact with the actors and don’t stand in their eyeline. Don’t talk to above-the-line people unless they talk to you first. Don’t block doorways. Smile, be polite, and acknowledge the pecking order. Resist the urge to help out unless someone specifically asks for your help. Those are the basic ground rules for anybody walking onto a set for the first time.
This is why I don't work on films much anymore. Years of not being able to be myself has left met bitter. I bought my own gear to get more into docs and small indie films. I am much happier and enjoying what I do. I believe the film world is a harsh work place. If you are way to sensitive of a person it's not the field you want to be in.
Chas Gordon is exactly the person that I will never work with, His condescending attitude is typical of the "Know It Alls" that have no place in a professional environment.
I hardly think that the articles are published for the seasoned veteren, but for the newer person working their way into the business or up that ladder. I have these articles saved and they are required reading for new members on our crews. So far, every person has thanked me for the information.
Shame on you Chas. Your attitude is absurd.
Beeing "new" to the north american market i found very usefull some bits of info on your article Rick.
Very usefull the part about wiring kids...always have someone else with you while doing it.
After 8 years in the industry i still consider this articles to be very important.
Keep it up Rick and if we don´t meet before have a great Xmas.
Thanks 4 all the help and the warm welcome to town.
Here it is 2009 and I am pleased to see that Rick is still on the scene at Trew Audio (although I must admit I miss the old "Location Sound Inc." days).
As for the article, I found it completely accurate -- as I think anyone would who actually has an aptitude for being part of a professional sound team. Chas, your commentary screams with green, and I'm not talking being sensitive to the environment. I would seriously suggest you consider a different line of work.
Thanks, Rick. Doubtless I'll see you down at Trew Audio soon!
Wow! I've known Rick for Y E A R S ....... and he's always been respectful and professional. Although I've "Been around the block" for a few years, I'll buy the book just based on some of the fantastic stories I haven't heard before. I too miss going to the "Old" store downtown - It was like I was going to visit my Uncle at his house.
Hats off to you Rick, You've been an asset to this industry in the past and happy to hear you still share a life-long talent with us all! Cheers.
The last paragraph about wiring was rather interesting. It's true that underage talent should have someone present while wiring, but unless they're a civilian, it doesn't have to be a parent or guardian. For underage actors, I've usually just had a hair, makeup or wardrobe person there. I'm not sure if this method is the legal standard, but in my experience, it sure is the industry standard. The ONLY time I've ever been asked to let the talent, hair, makeup or wardrobe do the wiring was while working with Japanese crews. In Japan, male PSM's rarely wire female talent. That's what the Japanese crews have always told me. If someone needs to be wired and it has to be hidden, and it isn't a cultural taboo to do so, I will try to persuade them to let me, or one of my crew do the wiring. If they say no, I'll respect their wishes.
I am a beginner to hollywood and I'm doing every possible thing I can to get into the industry. This article was VERY helpful. If there's a book I'm buying it.
Personal comment: This industry is heavily flawed with the fact that getting a job is ALL about who you know. Look at Chas here. He has a lot of experience, but I'm guessing it's because he has close friends or family in the industry. If you are in this business you better thank Rick for the advice and move on.
Rick, if you're ever in California I will gladly buy you lunch.
-Chris
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