14
Jan
A Syncing Feeling with Software
by Tyler Wade
/ 7 Comments
Thank you Tyler for an excellent article. I especially appreciate your tests with the MovieSlate app, it's good to know the limitations.
I have a feeling that we will begin to see more TC products in the near future, with pricing not necessarily in the $80 range, but also not as extreme as $2,000 for a smart slate.
A little self-promotion: having had the need for a simple bright TC display in a bag for documentary style shoots, I am in development stages on a very small TC display that will be perfectly suited for such purposes. The people I am working with are under www.betso.cz and there are several other interesting TC products from them that might be of interest to many audio professionals.
Thomas Hayek, Toronto
hey Tyler,
thanks for helping us explore the options available in terms of software slates. i do share your opinion that for now, movie slate seems like the most advanced software option. did anyone ever tested using the movie slate app as a wi-fi timecode transceiver from a stable clock (sound devives 744t by example). then in editing room, comparing on image timecode display from ipad to timecode value on video and finally timecode value on audio.
basically i want to know if the wi-fi process is fast enough to make it frame accurate.
i do not think that these apps should be considered for their timecode generating purposes as described in the test. but if this works, i can see myself using these things ( with external extra batterie packs and proper shock/rain protection )
thanks again,
Dominique
btw the remote control of slate in the movie slate app is a pretty practical function not to be forgotten
Um, why not use that iPad for all the things it does? The technology is there, it's solid, stable, why not use it? Why are some devices one trick ponies? Cause they were made that way, and are not real computers, like an iPad is.
Great article. I use Movie Slate all the time and love it.
And be sure to check out the Alesis StudioDock Pro!
I would like to say that these applications are very intriguing, but I have instantly found some problems with MovieSlate that should be stated and separately verified.
To be absolutely fair, I have been in contact with PureBlend software and have found them quick to respond and open to suggestions and discussion and they immediately passed on the Apple refund procedure. I have great hopes for this, or other apps, especially since GPS is now the recommended time transfer standard of the US Naval Observatory, which keeps THE clock. Imagine if all those DSLR jockeys just showed a little accurate time of day to the camera, wouldn't that make us all feel better?
PureBlend's MovieSlate does not support 23.97. It's on the app setup window, but plugging it into my FR-2, it generated invalid timecode indicators using their pro upgrade. Pureblend confirmed my concerns and promised to correct their website. All you Canon DSLR users should take strict note and should understand that 24p1080 on these cameras is actually 23.97, depending on firmware revisions and Magic Lantern. Most people may have not experienced a lot of problems given a good grab of absolute frames early in the roll, but when multiple cameras are being serviced and the 12 minute mark happens and operators start recycling their cameras, you are already out 10 frames. DOH!
Secondly, the music video app breaks LTC for the duration of the after slate freeze frame. Yikes.
Finally, the music video mode only supports 29.97DF with valid code, which pretty much nixxes crossjamming as well for your longer tunes.
This app is so potentially amazing, but for my jobs, it ain't quite there. I am told it will get better.
I have been using the Ambient Clockit app for a while and one thing I have noticed which hasn't been mentioned here is that the app cannot display frame accurate code, it only shows one in every two or three frames which can even result in 26 frame seconds being displayed
In some cirucmstances a frame or two may not be a big deal but of course sometimes accurate frame for frame matching is essential
I am still looking to find out if this is a limitation of the phone/tablet itself or the Ambient app - note that this app has been tested in several different models of iPhone and with different mchines generating the code and always results with the same problem occuring
I wonder if anyone could confirm this same problem occurs with MovieSlate or the LTC Reader app?
I certainly think there is a future for products like these but would agree that they should be run on standalone machines and, personally, would always feed them from a dedicated, accurate generator and use the phone/pad simply as a dumb reader (and leave it permamnently connected to avoid the dreaded drift!!!!!!!!)
Cheers
Hello,
how do you feed the Ipad/Iphone movie slate pro?
What is the correct wiring? Can I use the ambient cable lemo5 to jack TRRS?
Thank you.
Yes, The ambient cable will work.
Remote Audio also manufactures cables for the Iphone/Ipad that can be found here: http://www.remoteaudio.com/cables_adapters/idevice/