17
Aug
Deva External Slate Mic Modification
by Glen Trew
/ 8 Comments
All headphones??? Sennheiser HD25 anyone? Maybe it should read, "all inferior sony headphones"
;)
The quote is: "All headphones that use a single cable...", which would not include the HD25. With the HD25, the cable is in the way whichever side you plug it in, but a headset version of the HD25 works nicely with the external slate mic input.
Glen Trew
Well, I'm totally confused! All 4 pairs of HD 25's I've got (not the HD25-SP, which are crap) have the (single) cable connected on the right side. Nearly every location soundo I know uses these and they match up perfectly with Sound Devices stuff which also has the headphone jack on the right. SQN and Wendt have always had theirs on the left which I've always found annoying! Is there another version perhaps I'm not aware of? Either way, I think the mod you're doing is a great idea. Happy tinkering!
looks great. wish I'd thought of it!
The HD25-SP (lower cost version, not usually the pro choice) has a cable hanging from each earpiece.
HMD25 (headset with mic) comes without a connector, so it can be wired so that the cable side is the right or the left of the stereo image. These headsets (like the HD25) are symmetrical so that they can be worn with the cable on the left or the right side. The microphone can be flipped to be either on the left side or right side of the user, without regard to a stereo image. However, all of the photos of the HMD25 I've seen from Sennheiser show these headsets in the cable-left position. The Sennheiser HD280 headphones come pre-wired with the cable on the left ear cup (these headphone are not symmetrical, and must be worn with the cable on the left side regardless of how the connector is wired).
The HD25, which is a popular pro headphone for film/video field monitoring, like the HMD25, it is a symmetrical design, so it can be worn with the cable hanging on either the left of the right side without affecting the fit or fidelity. It is unusual in that it comes from the factory so that the earpiece with the cable is wire to ring of the connector (right side). I'm sure there is an interesting history about why this is, but for those who want their HD25 headphones to be consistent with all of the other headphones typically used for film/video monitoring, it is a simple matter of reversing the two wires going to the tip and ring of the plug.
Other headphones/headsets seen in film/video production monitoring (Ultrasone, Beyer, Audio Technica, AKG) all have the cable-left standard.
All this is interesting, but not really a factor in Trew Audio's external slate mic mod for the Deva. The original 1/4" headphone connector is unchanged on the right side of the recorder, and still available for when it's more convenient, even when the external slate mic is used.
Pertaining to the external slate mic/headset modification for the Deva recorders, four points should be emphasized:
1) The external slate mic input can be used with any dynamic or electret condensor mic, even when using conventional headphones in the original 1/4" jack.
2) All commonly used professional headphones can be modified at Trew Audio to become "headsets" with a miniature booom microphone.
3) The Sennheiser HMD25 headset (dynamic or condenser, condenser recommended) can be used with the Trew Audio/Deva external slate mic modification simply by adding a TA5F connector. Our shop will be happy to install this connector.
4) The Sony MDR-7506 headset used in the video demonstration and shown in the photos is a stock item, and uses a miniature electret boom mic and mount manufactured by Remote Audio. Details of the microphone and options can be seen here: http://www.trewaudio.com/store/product.php?productid=1013&cat=109&page=1
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Ed Novick said on August 18th, 2009 at 3:43 am:
> looks great. wish I’d thought of it!
Yes... Kudos to sound mixer extraordinaire Ed Novick (Dark Night) for the inspiration of this external slate mic/headset modification. Ed visited me on the set of "Hannah Montana, The Movie" last summer at the Santa Monica Pier and presented his idea that he was trying with his own Deva. During lighting setups we refined the concept and soon afterward installed it in Ed's Deva back at Trew Audio in Nashville.
Glen Trew
Glen Trew
How does one lock two Devas or another recorder together if the word clock input isnt active? or does that really matter?
thanks
> Scott Farr said on August 31st, 2009 at 2:06 pm:
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> How does one lock two Devas or another recorder together if the word clock
> input isnt active? or does that really matter?
Hi Scott,
For the use that film/video recordists would usually use two or more recorders (such as when using a second recorder as a backup), it doesn't matter. When sample-accuracy sync is needed, the Deva can lock to an AES output of another recorder.
Glen Trew