06
Nov
New Rycote for the Sennheiser 8040/8050
by Glen Trew
/ 10 Comments
how much are all the pieces?
Hi John, links to the prices have been added to the top of the page.
GT
Quick question, Glen, I think of the 8040 as an interior mic. With this setup, is the 8040 suitable for exteriors as well? Could it compete with a 416 outdoors? Or is that comparing apples to oranges?
So that explains why each capsule is priced as high as it is compared to the "system"! Where does the original MZK 8000 (the XLR / phantom power adapter) live in this arrangement? At the mixer input (if you're working out of a bag) or at the boom op's interface back to the mixer? The shockmount shown above has a different rear lyre than the one shown on the MZL suspension page. Can one specify which lyres one gets? I try to achieve multiple purposes when I can with my gear to be frugal. This system would be perfect as a zeppelin system for, say a Sanken CS-1, or a Neumann KM-184, if there was simply a longer middle section of the windscreen available. Could this be a direction they're going?
Hi Jim,
Yes, when used with the Rycote system described above, the Sennheiser MKH-8040 and MKH-8050 can be used successfully for exteriors, like other short microphone such as those from Schoeps (MK-41) and Sennheiser (MKH-40 and MKH-50). In my opinion, the benefits of using short microphones outdoors is often overlooked, particularly in natural outdoor settings for dialog and acoustical music.
While the off-axis rejection in the voice range is well known with shotgun mics like the 416, keep in mind that longer mics (shotguns and short shotguns) do not reject off-axis low frequencies as well. This is why the low freq roll-off is a nonadjustable feature of the 416. However, short microphones like the 8040 reject the low frequencies more evenly, allowing the capture of more natural ambience.
It occurred to me that I didn't include enough detail about the MZF-8000 filter, so I added the section called "Using the MZF-8000 filter" to the article today (Nov. 11). So you might want to read that section.
Glen Trew
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Gee Ell said on November 11th, 2009 at 3:43 pm:
...So that explains why each capsule is priced as high as it is compared to the “system”! Where does the original MZK 8000 (the XLR / phantom power adapter) live in this arrangement? At the mixer input (if you’re working out of a bag) or at the boom op’s interface back to the mixer?...
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Hi Gee,
Yes, the XLR module of the MKH-8000 series is really just a connector (no active components), so, at about US$200, it is much less expensive than the mic capsule module.
When using the MKH-8040 or MKH-8050 in the Rycote system, the XLR module is not used because it is replaced by the Connbox cable assembly. In fact, adding the XLR module to the mic module and filter module would make the mic too long to fit into the Rycote windscreen, which is why the Connbox is needed to keep the system as small as it is.
Good eyes about the clip being different on the MZL page of our online store! The MZL suspension includes three clips, one of which is a very small diameter to clip onto the cable (as shown here: http://www.trewaudio.com/store/product.php?productid=1046).
If using the MKH-8040 or MKH-8050 with the MZL suspension indoors (without the zeppelin style windscreen), then the MZF filter module is not needed, and therefore the small clip for the cable is used. But if the intention is to also use the 8040/8050 in exterior location (thus requiring the windscreen and MZ-8000 filter) I've found it better to use the larger rear clip as shown in the photo in the above article.
I still do about one movie per year and the occasional commercial, and when I do, my MKH-8040 will be rigged as in the photos above, always ready for interior or exterior windscreens.
Glen Trew
Glenn: I always tend to use more directional mikes than wider ones,to have a better isolation from background ambience, so I'm very interested at the MKH8050. Can you compare it with the 8040 and 416 or even a MKH 70? I also would use it for interiors and exteriors.
Hi Glen. Is that a Schoeps foam? (3rd picture)
Maintain the great work.
Is there a way to mount this on a camera like with the invision serie?